Legislature(1997 - 1998)

04/09/1997 01:00 PM House TRA

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            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                            
                         April 9, 1997                                         
                           1:00 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
 MEMBERS PRESENT                                                               
                                                                               
 Representative Bill Williams, Chairman                                        
 Representative Beverly Masek, Vice Chairman                                   
 Representative John Cowdery                                                   
 Representative Bill Hudson                                                    
 Representative Jerry Sanders                                                  
 Representative Kim Elton                                                      
 Representative Al Kookesh                                                     
                                                                               
 MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                
                                                                               
 All members present                                                           
                                                                               
 COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                            
                                                                               
 CS FOR SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 15(FIN)                                    
 Relating to reauthorization of the federal Intermodal Surface                 
 Transportation Efficiency Act of 1991.                                        
                                                                               
      - MOVED CSSJR 15(FIN) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                   
                                                                               
 (* First public hearing)                                                      
                                                                               
 PREVIOUS ACTION                                                               
                                                                               
 BILL:  SJR 15                                                               
 SHORT TITLE: REAUTHORIZATION OF ISTEA                                         
 SPONSOR(S): TRANSPORTATION                                                    
                                                                               
 JRN-DATE     JRN-PG             ACTION                                        
 02/17/97       379    (S)   READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRAL(S)                 
 02/17/97       379    (S)   FINANCE                                           
 03/10/97              (S)   FIN AT  9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                
 03/10/97              (S)   MINUTE(FIN)                                       
 03/13/97       716    (S)   FIN RPT  CS  4DP 1NR    SAME TITLE                
 03/13/97       716    (S)   DP: SHARP, PEARCE, PHILLIPS, PARNELL              
 03/13/97       716    (S)   NR: ADAMS                                         
 03/13/97       716    (S)   ZERO FISCAL NOTE (S.FIN)                          
 03/18/97              (S)   RLS AT 10:45 AM FAHRENKAMP RM 203                 
 03/18/97              (S)   MINUTE(RLS)                                       
 03/21/97       803    (S)   RULES TO CALENDAR & 1DP      3/21/97              
 03/21/97       805    (S)   READ THE SECOND TIME                              
 03/21/97       806    (S)   FIN  CS ADOPTED UNAN CONSENT                      
 03/21/97       806    (S)   ADVANCED TO THIRD READING UNAN CONSENT            
 03/21/97       806    (S)   READ THE THIRD TIME  CSSJR 15(FIN)                
 03/21/97       806    (S)   PASSED Y15 N- E4 A1                               
 03/21/97       810    (S)   TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                
 03/24/97       800    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRAL(S)                 
 03/24/97       800    (H)   TRANSPORTATION                                    
 04/09/97              (H)   TRA AT  1:00 PM CAPITOL 17                        
                                                                               
 WITNESS REGISTER                                                              
                                                                               
 CRAIG JOHNSON, Legislative Assistant                                          
   to Senator Jerry Ward                                                       
 Alaska State Legislature                                                      
 Capitol Building, Room 423                                                    
 Juneau, Alaska  99801                                                         
 Telephone:  (907) 465-4940                                                    
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on SJR 15.                                     
                                                                               
 SAM KITO, Legislative Liaison                                                 
 Special Assistant                                                             
 Office of the Commissioner                                                    
 Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                            
 3132 Channel Drive                                                            
 Juneau, Alaska  99801                                                         
 Telephone:  (907) 465-3904                                                    
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of SJR 15.                          
                                                                               
 ACTION NARRATIVE                                                              
                                                                               
 TAPE 97-21, SIDE A                                                            
 Number 001                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN BILL WILLIAMS called the House Transportation Standing               
 Committee to order at 1:00 p.m.  Members present at the call to               
 order were Representatives Williams, Masek, Cowdery, Hudson,                  
 Sanders, Elton and Kookesh.                                                   
                                                                               
 CSSJR 15(FIN) - REAUTHORIZATION OF ISTEA                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS announced the committee would hear CSSJR 15(FIN),           
 "Relating to reauthorization of the federal Intermodal Surface                
 Transportation Efficiency Act of 1991."  He stated that the                   
 reauthorization of the federal Intermodal Surface Transportation              
 Efficiency Act (ISTEA), is one of the more critical issues in front           
 of congress this year, the bulk of our highway funds come to our              
 state through this program.                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 081                                                                    
                                                                               
 CRAIG JOHNSON, Legislative Assistant to Senator Jerry Ward, stated            
 that this legislation calls for congress to re-enact ISTEA, which             
 is due to expire September 30, 1997.  Basically since 1991, Alaska            
 has received over $1 billion in federal funds from the ISTEA                  
 program which accounts for one-third of Alaska's total                        
 transportation budget in that period.  He stated that this                    
 resolution calls for an increase in funding to the state of Alaska            
 if possible, but in any case, that the funds not be reduced.  He              
 stated that it calls for the use of ISTEA funds to repair existing            
 transportation infra-structures and calls upon congress to allow              
 the states more flexibility in the use of the funds.  It also asks            
 for recognition of Alaska's unique Arctic and Sub-Arctic climate              
 which is very unique to the states in utilizing the funds.  He                
 stated that it also asks that ISTEA now require major investment              
 studies as mandated by the Federal Highway Regulations for Alaska.            
 Basically any expansion of more than 1-mile requires a study, that            
 we are asking not be required by the state of Alaska.  This                   
 resolution also calls for ISTEA funds to build low volume roads.              
 He stated that there is no need for a road that handles 20 to 30              
 cars a day outside Nome to be built to the same standards as Egan             
 Drive and in some cases this is the situation.   ISTEA also calls             
 for the funds to improve pioneer access and historical roadways and           
 trails.  He believed that a strong signal to our delegation in                
 Washington that we support this resolution, would go a long way in            
 helping ISTEA pass in its existing form or in an improved form to             
 benefit the state of Alaska.                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 258                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JOHN COWDERY stated that he noticed this resolution            
 is a committee substitute and asked how this resolution is                    
 different from the original.                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 477                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. JOHNSON replied that it is not significantly different.  There            
 was some language about trails that was added, the Arctic and Sub-            
 Arctic conditions was added, basically minor technical changes                
 reorganizing that Alaska is unique.  There were no major changes to           
 the overall impact of the resolution.                                         
                                                                               
 Number 313                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ELTON stated that page 3, lines 10 through 12,                 
 states "Further resolved, that the Alaska State Legislature                   
 respectfully requests that Congress to allow for a portion of the             
 enhancement set aside funds to be used to maintain or improve                 
 pioneer access trails and historical roadways;" and asked if he               
 could explain that.                                                           
                                                                               
 Number 338                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. JOHNSON replied that Sam Kito, legislative liason for                     
 DOT/PF,649 would probably be able to answer it better, but his                
 basic understanding is that if there are pioneer trails and roads,            
 we could use the funds to enhance those existing trails.                      
 Number 371                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BILL HUDSON stated that he is fully in support of              
 the legislation and believes that given the presentation in front             
 of the legislature by Senator Stevens, that it is very important              
 that we identify those elements in ISTEA that are under study for             
 change, that would affect us or harm us.  He stated that it is                
 important that we give the Senator and our congressional delegation           
 a strong message from the legislature that it is extremely                    
 important and we do not want any changes that will harm us.  He               
 stated that as far as using some of the enhancement funds to                  
 improve pioneer access trails and historical roadways, it is                  
 something that we have requested before and thinks that it is the             
 right thing to do as it will give us another element of                       
 flexibility.                                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 477                                                                    
                                                                               
 SAM KITO, Legislative Liaison, Special Assistant, Office of the               
 Commissioner, Department of Transportation and Public Facilities,             
 stated that the department would like to go on record as strongly             
 supporting SJR 15, which provides for continuation of the ISTEA               
 provisions that are beneficial to Alaska.  He stated that one of              
 the key items, that a lot of other states are also looking at, is             
 removing the requirement for a major investment study which is                
 something that is also outlined in this resolution.  He stated that           
 in reference to the specific comment about using transportation               
 enhancement funds for pioneer access trails, he doesn't have a                
 specific answer.  He stated that he does have an answer based on              
 some of the comments offered in the Senate Finance Standing                   
 Committee.  He stated Senator Torgerson's interest was to try and             
 take some of the funding that we have received for transportation             
 enhancement and turn it back into maintenance or upgrading some of            
 the trails that we have in the state.  He stated that he does not             
 know how that will result in congress but it sends a message to               
 congress that the intent of the legislature is that we try and                
 maintain our flexibility for use of the transportation enhancement            
 or trail funds.                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 587                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ELTON stated that there is a history to historical             
 access and pioneer access and that history can have a fairly                  
 dramatic effect on landowners, whether it is corporate lands or               
 private lands.  He assumed that when you are talking about the                
 enhancement set aside funds that this is a diversion of funds from            
 historical overlooks or bike trails to this new category of                   
 identifying access trails or improving access trails.                         
                                                                               
 Number 649                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. KITO replied, "My of that is more of an expansion of the                  
 ability to use funds for multiple purposes, not directing from the            
 legislature that they be used for the specific purpose but                    
 providing that the members of congress recognize the state of                 
 Alaska's unique situation and allow the use of these funds for more           
 than just the standard trails that you see in the lower 48."  He              
 stated that it is a recognition of another possible use of the                
 transportation enhancement funds.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 700                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON made a motion to move CSSJR 15(FIN), 0-                 
 LS0505, Version F, with individual recommendations, asked unanimous           
 consent, with a zero fiscal note.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 720                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BEVERLY MASEK stated that she had a comment to make.           
 She stated that she has been working on this issue since she got to           
 Juneau and spent a lot of time with the commissioner.  She stated             
 that right now we are number 28 amongst all the states that we have           
 to compete against.  She stated that she was told that it is going            
 to be really difficult to stay at 28 but sending this resolution              
 down will really be helpful to the state of Alaska because we are             
 competing with state's like California and Texas, that have a lot             
 more highways and a lot more people and they put a lot more money             
 back into the system.  She stated that it is really important that            
 we follow through as to the kind of changes we are going to make              
 and how it is going to affect Alaska.  She stated as far as the               
 trails go, it will be interesting to see if they will allow that              
 type of money to go into trails.  From what she understands the               
 money is going basically for the highways and mass transit programs           
 and it will be interesting to see if they are going to shift gears            
 and change it.  She stated that she fully supports this resolution            
 and we should send it down to Washington D.C. as soon as possible.            
                                                                               
 Number 834                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked if there was any objections, hearing none,            
 CSSJR 15(FIN) moved from the House Transportation Standing                    
 Committee.                                                                    
                                                                               
 ADJOURNMENT                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS adjourned the House Transportation Standing                 
 Committee at 1:20 p.m.                                                        
                                                                               

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